According to Christa Titus from Billboard, a Washington state judge ruled October 19 that singer Geoff Tate – who was fired from the band QUEENSRŸCHE after fronting it for 30 years – may perform with his own version of the group until a lawsuit he filed against three former bandmates is settled.
Superior Court Judge Carol A. Schapira denied a motion for partial summary judgment that guitarist Michael Wilton, drummer Scott Rockenfield and bassist Eddie Jackson requested Sept. 21 to stop Tate from using the Queensrÿche name and associated imagery as the case proceeds to trial. The trio filed the request because Tate had announced his own Queensrÿche lineup online on Sept. 1-2. According to a statement to Billboard from Jackson, the announcement “of a second Queensrÿche lineup, upcoming tour plans and new musical direction has caused some confusion for our fans.”
Tate originally sought a preliminary injunction to prevent his former bandmates from working under the name Queensrÿche when he and former band manager Susan Tate (Geoff’s wife) filed the suit on June 22 in King Country Superior Court. Schapira denied their request on July 13, but noted in her remarks that, since enough information wasn’t available for her to make a determination, Geoff Tate was not forbidden from using the name, either.
Billboard asked Tate’s representative, Jeff Albright of Albright Entertainment Group, if Tate wished to comment on the ruling, but did not receive any comment by press time.
“Queensrÿche is disappointed in the denial of the motion to prevent our former vocalist from using our name, but we respect the court’s decision to do so. That said, we apologize for any confusion to our fans that a second entity sharing our name may cause,” the band said in a statement to Billboard. “We look forward to seeing all of you on the road and bringing you new Queensrÿche music in the near future. Thank you all for your continued support, and for now we will just have to let the rocking do the talking.”
The Tates claim the defendants illegally fired Geoff from the band because of “blind greed,” and that their attempt to move forward as Queensrÿche without him will harm the band’s brand. They seek compensation that includes Geoff Tate being awarded the rights to the band’s name. Queensrÿche, which filed a countersuit against the Tates, accused Geoff of creative obstruction and violent behavior, and Susan Tate of questionable business practices.
Female vocalist Pamela Moore, who is best known for her performance as Sister Mary on QUEENSRŸCHE‘s 1988 epic release “Operation: Mindcrime” and 2006’s sequel “Operation: Mindcrime II”, will join the Todd La Torre-fronted version of QUEENSRŸCHE on stage on October 27 at the Snoqualmie Casino in Snoqualmie, Washington.
Commented the group: “[Pamela] is considered family to the band, part of QUEENSRŸCHE‘s legacy, and has won the hearts of the amazing QUEENSRŸCHE fans. It is our privilege to share the stage with her once again!”
Singer Geoff Tate, who was fired from QUEENSRŸCHE in June after fronting the group for three decades, recently sought to prevent his former bandmates from touring and operating under the QUEENSRŸCHE name without him. While ruling against Tate, the presiding judge determined that there was no legal hurdle in Tate also using the name with an all-new lineup of musicians. “I don’t see any reason that Mr. Tate can’t have the benefit, if he gets other members, of whatever name he uses of using the brand,” Superior Court Judge Carol A. Schapira said during the July 13 court hearing. “I think [doing that would be] inherently confusing, although I’m sure the market can get these things sorted out,” she added.
On September 2, Tate announced that he was launching his own version of QUEENSRŸCHE with RATT drummer Bobby Blotzer, former QUIET RIOT, OZZY OSBOURNE and WHITESNAKE bassist Rudy Sarzo and former MEGADETH and KING DIAMOND guitarist Glen Drover. Also on board in the new group are returning QUEENSRŸCHE guitarist Kelly Gray — who played with the band from 1998 until 2001 and also produced several of their albums — and keyboardist Randy Gane, who has toured and recorded with QUEENSRŸCHE and Geoff‘s solo group in the past.
Addie Rox of Tampa Bay’s Mayhem Magazine recently conducted an interview with new QUEENSRŸCHE singer Todd La Torre. A couple of excerpts from the chat follow below.
Mayhem Magazine: A lot of your influence comes from Geoff Tate. What kind of influence do you think your particular sound will have? How will it be the same or differ from original QUEENSRŸCHE material?
Todd: A lot of the little crying inflections, or when you enter a phrase… Michael Sweet [STRYPER] does it a lot too. You know, he [Tate] has a cleaner voice than I have. Even from my early teens, I’ve had a little bit of a raspier voice, but I can mimic… I don’t like to say the word “mimic,” but I need to in order to properly do the songs the way they need to be done. So, I mean, I struggle a little bit with staying clean, because I’m used to doing a lot of the higher, more metal, edgier-type music. His is not so aggressive, and in the music I sing with CRIMSON GLORY, it’s heavier and vocals are dirtier and grittier. So as far as how would my sound, or the new stuff sound, I think it will sound edgier, and I have a tendency of wanting to do the [Rob] Halford style metal screaming where I think that they’re [fellow QUEENSRŸCHE members] wanting to tone that down; maybe they think it’s a little dated. But there are times that I want to show the power and the metal side of it. QUEENSRŸCHE is metal, but I think I’ll lend a different texture.
Mayhem Magazine: How do you feel about “replacing” one of your idols, Geoff Tate. Is it bittersweet?
Todd: Well… the term that you are using is very delicate. To say the word “replacing,” some would arguably say he is irreplaceable. I am, in fact, filling those shoes, that role, so it’s probably a fair term, although a lot of people, for political correctness, try to not use this. To be politically correct, or for professional courtesy, I feel people are afraid to use that word because it will garnish criticism, but the fact of the matter is, that is what it is. To be compared, to even be in the same breath as somebody who is probably the biggest influence, vocally, within the genre is surreal, but I feel like I’ve already been down this road with CRIMSON GLORY because Midnight was a very highly revered singer and I’ve been kind of held to the fire on that. I’m not worried about the naysayers who are, like, “Fuck this guy! QUEENSRŸCHE will never be QUEENSRŸCHE without Geoff Tate.” I respect that, I understand that. I’m a fan, too, so I won’t criticize someone for that opinion, but at the same time, and I don’t know this from the members, but it’s fairly evident that Tate is moving in a different direction. The [recent QUEENSRŸCHE] music appears, from an outsider looking in, that it is not what the fans are really wanting, in my opinion. And so, maybe the fans expect the band to not do something, but it’s like, if I sound too much like him, I’m being labeled as a clone, but if I sound nothing like him, then they say, “This guy sounds nothing like what it should sound like!” So I’m damned if I do, damned if I don’t. So I just say, I do the best that I can. Yes, my phrasing is very similar to him; it’s going to be. If I was a guitar player that just grew up on Yngwie [Malmsteen] and Paul Gilbert or Michael Angelo, it’s going to be reflected in that playing. If you play like Steve Vai, they are going to be on your sleeve.
Mayhem Magazine: Have you had any formal vocal training?
Todd: I’ve never had any formal training or taken a single lesson — not one. It was actually right before my debut show with CRIMSON GLORY in Marietta, Georgia that I was able to find a very well-respected vocal coach in the area and I really wanted more of an evaluation. I was told from him, “Do you know how many people that come to me and sing like you do? Hardly any, very few. Whatever you have done to teach yourself, don’t stop.” I try to find my own way to sing any QUEENSRŸCHE song and not strain my throat, but make it sound effortless. There’s always room for improvement.
Mayhem Magazine: Do you feel like you are having to win over the QUEENSRŸCHE fans?
Todd: The difference for me is, I don’t have the history, because it’s not my voice on those records. It’s not my voice they fell in love with. It’s hard; it really makes it harder. Luckily, the CRIMSON fans accepted me the way that they did and I think it’s because I’ve proven that I am a better singer live than Midnight was. I don’t like saying it, but it’s true — even the band says it. I don’t have his range; I can’t sing so super high. I can hit some high stuff, but it’s not what makes a great singer; it’s pretty overrated. It’s cool. Not a lot of people can do it great, but it’s still a bit overrated. Emotion is where it’s at. Not that I should care too much what people think to the point that it consumes me, but if I make the band happy and proud, I can’t ask for anything more. I’m human; these are my vocal cords. People expect too much. Even out of Geoff Tate, they expect too much. “Oh he doesn’t have the range.” Dude, the guy’s voice, in my opinion, is still fucking awesome. The problem is when you build your sound around a range that he’s known for, and then you don’t deliver like the record. I mean, come on — it’s a record. Those lines are done a million times and they take the best takes and they put it together. The record is forever, right? Well, live, very few sound like the record and let’s face it, QUEENSRŸCHE is some of the hardest material in the world to sing.
Mayhem Magazine: How different is the singing from your CRIMSON GLORY songs?
Todd: Well, the CRIMSON GLORY songs, Midnight had a scratchier voice. You don’t hear any scratch on any Geoff Tate‘s stuff. You’re going to hear it, to some degree, with my voice. Even on the live stuff, that’s just how I sing. I think the range on CRIMSON is much higher — I know it is — but trying to be able to sing clean is challenging, but I can do it fairly well. Lots of factors are involved, too, like climate, travel, fatigue, rest, minimizing talking, etc. Our voice is our instrument.
New QUEENSRŸCHE singer Todd La Torre has revealed that he is currently laying down vocals on demo versions of some of the band’s new material. He says, “[I am] loving the new songs. [They are] refreshing, not dated, and heavier than anything put out in years! Oh yeah!”
La Torre, who says that QUEENSRŸCHE has been his favorite band since he was 15 years old, first met QUEENSRŸCHE guitarist Michael Wilton at this year’s NAMM convention in January in Anaheim, California.
In a June radio interview, La Torre stated about QUEENSRŸCHE‘s plans to record new original music, “Obviously, we wanna try and write something that’s heavy, but also has a common thread of what is QUEENSRŸCHE‘s sound — very melodic guitar parts. Vocally, I’m in a very unique position because a lot of people like to throw around, ‘Oh, he’s a clone, he’s an imitator, he’s this, he’s that.’ And I feel like I’m damned if I do and I’m damned if I don’t.
“My style of singing and phrasing is very similar to Geoff Tate and Bruce Dickinson and Rob Halford. I mean, a lot of my high metal screams are grittier and dirtier, like Rob Halford. My vibrato is more similar to Bruce Dickinson or Geoff Tate. A lot of the crying and ways of entering a vocal phrase and phonating, the way I say words, are very similar to Geoff Tate.
“I wear my influences on my sleeve, but I also think that I have a heavier vibe than Geoff Tate ever had. With a lot of the heavier, gritty, thrashier metal style… I mean, I love to do some of the death growls like Chuck Billy [TESTAMENT] does. Is that QUEENSRŸCHE sound? No. But if they want it kicked up and give it a heavier edge, I think that I have that, and that’s something that Geoff Tate never did. Not taking anything away from him, but I think I do show a wide range of versatility.
“As an artist, you wanna spread your wings, and you wanna try things that are creative, and you wanna still stay current. So it’s like, ‘OK, how do we achieve, how do we pacify the masses?’ You don’t wanna write a record that sounds like 1986. But you don’t wanna sound so changed that the older fans aren’t finding that common thread in the music that they loved that is from the early-to-mid-’80s or even early ’90s, like ‘Operation: Mindcrime’. I mean, that’s regarded as one of the greatest concept albums of all time, and it’s stood the test of time. Is that a real heavy, heavy metal record? In my opinion, no. I call it ‘metal,’ but it was progressive and it had a lot of wonderful instrumentation and elements, and it’s a masterpiece of a work. So we just wanna do what we do. They’ve told me, ‘Todd, don’t feel like you have to try to sound like our past. We want you to do you.’ And so the things that we have worked on together, there are elements that are indicative [of], or very similar to, the classic QUEENSRŸCHE vocal sound, but I’m still doing things that are me.
“It’s kind of frustrating for me when people say, ‘Oh, he’s come in and just tries to copy [Geoff].’ Well, if I sing [the songs] so close to the original [versions]… Obviously, I want to represent the songs in [their] truest form that I can do. I think, live, I still kind of end up phrasing things a little different and will do things kind of my way, but I try to stay as true as I can. So if I do that, people are like, ‘Oh, he’s a clone, he’s a copycat, and it’s never the same without Geoff Tate,’ which I do respect. On the other hand, if I’m so different, then they’re gonna say, ‘It’s nothing like Geoff Tate. It’s nothing like QUEENSRŸCHE sound. This isn’t QUEENSRŸCHE. It’s not even close to the same style.’ . . .So if the fans wanna hear the hardcore, classic heavy high-screaming stuff that they haven’t heard in many, many, many years, we’re gonna stay true to the classic material that the fans have been wanting to hear for so long and then we’ll be interjecting some new stuff soon.”
Tate, who was fired from QUEENSRŸCHE in June after fronting the group for three decades, recently sought to prevent his former bandmates from touring and operating under the QUEENSRŸCHE name without him. While ruling against Tate, the presiding judge determined that there was no legal hurdle in Tate also using the name with an all-new lineup of musicians. “I don’t see any reason that Mr. Tate can’t have the benefit, if he gets other members, of whatever name he uses of using the brand,” Superior Court Judge Carol A. Schapira said during the July 13 court hearing. “I think [doing that would be] inherently confusing, although I’m sure the market can get these things sorted out,” she added.
On September 2, Tate announced that he was launching his own version of QUEENSRŸCHE with RATT drummer Bobby Blotzer, former QUIET RIOT, OZZY OSBOURNE and WHITESNAKE bassist Rudy Sarzo and former MEGADETH and KING DIAMOND guitarist Glen Drover. Also on board in the new group are returning QUEENSRŸCHE guitarist Kelly Gray — who played with the band from 1998 until 2001 and also produced several of their albums — and keyboardist Randy Gane, who has toured and recorded with QUEENSRŸCHE and Geoff‘s solo group in the past.
Drummer Bobby Blotzer (pictured below) says that he is “exhausted” dealing with his RATT bandmates and insists that he is “very excited” about his new gig as a member of the singer Geoff Tate‘s version of QUEENSRŸCHE.
Tate, who was fired from QUEENSRŸCHE in June after fronting the group for three decades, recently sought to prevent his former bandmates from touring and operating under the QUEENSRŸCHE name without him. While ruling against Tate, the presiding judge determined that there was no legal reason why Tate couldn’t also use the name with an all-new lineup of musicians.
On September 2, Tate announced that he was launching his own version of QUEENSRŸCHE with Blotzer, former QUIET RIOT, OZZY OSBOURNE and WHITESNAKE bassist Rudy Sarzo and former MEGADETH and KING DIAMOND guitarist Glen Drover. Also on board in the new group are returning QUEENSRŸCHE guitarist Kelly Gray — who played with the band from 1998 until 2001 and also produced several of their albums — and keyboardist Randy Gane, who has toured and recorded with QUEENSRŸCHE and Geoff‘s solo group in the past.
Addressing concerns from RATT fans about that band’s future, Blotzer took to his Facebook page to write, “Hey peeps, I really appreciate the loads of positive feedback about the grouping with Geoff and company. A lot of questions about the state of RATT surfacing as well. Those should be directed in the direction the usual suspects in RATT‘s disappearance, Warren [DeMartini, guitar] and Stephen [Pearcy]. I’ve exhausted myself for two years with those two. I’m sorry for all the b.s. They have fed false info to fans. Not meant to be mean, just exhausted with unreasonable people.”
In a statement posted on Queensryche.com, Blotzer said about his addition to the new QUEENSRŸCHE lineup, “Geoff and QUEENSRŸCHE and RATT have a long history of touring together and I am very excited about this new project with Geoff and the guys.”
Tate and his wife, Susan, QUEENSRŸCHE‘s former manager, filed a lawsuit against Geoff‘s ex-bandmates on June 22 in King County Superior Court over whether he should be awarded the QUEENSRŸCHE name after being dismissed from the group in June. Their complaint states Rockenfield, Wilton and Jackson wrongfully fired the singer and are tarnishing the group’s brand by attempting to move forward without him.
If the case goes to trial, the date is set for November 18, 2013.
Original RATT bassist Juan Croucier rejoined the Californian rockers for their show at the M3 Rock Festival on May 12 at the Merriweather Post Pavilion in Columbia, Maryland.
RATT‘s first studio record in 11 years, “Infestation”, sold around 14,000 copies in the United States in its first week of release to debut at position No. 30 on The Billboard 200 chart. The CD was issued on April 20, 2010 via Loud & Proud.
According to Billboard.com, it appears singer Geoff Tate is preparing to tour with his own version of QUEENSRŸCHE following his split with the band’s original members, guitarist Michael Wilton, drummer Scott Rockenfield and bassist Eddie Jackson. Tate‘s personal web site, GeoffTate.com, was recently upgraded with a new banner that reads “Geoff Tate: The Voice Of QUEENSRŸCHE.” He is also billed on the web site for booking agency Monterey International as “QUEENSRŸCHE Starring Geoff Tate: The Original Voice.” The band’s lineup isn’t listed. A request from Billboard to Monterey to verify Tate‘s responsible agent was not returned by press time.
Wilton, Jackson, Rockenfield and Parker Lundgren (guitar) announced on June 20 that they were parting ways with Geoff Tate and recruiting La Torre of CRIMSON GLORY as his replacement.
Wilton, Jackson and Rockenfield defeated Tate‘s motion for a preliminary injunction on July 13 that would have kept them from touring and operating under the band name,
Tate and his wife, Susan, QUEENSRŸCHE‘s former manager, filed a lawsuit against Geoff‘s ex-bandmates on June 22 in King County Superior Court over whether he should be awarded the QUEENSRŸCHE name after being dismissed from the group in June. Their complaint states Rockenfield, Wilton and Jackson wrongfully fired the singer and are tarnishing the group’s brand by attempting to move forward without him.
If the case goes to trial, the date is set for November 18, 2013.
In the meantime, Wilton, Jackson and Rockenfield, along with Lundgren and La Torre have launched a new web site at QueensrycheOfficial.com.
The new QUEENSRŸCHE lineup made its official live debut as the headliner of the last day of this year’s Halfway Jam, which took place July 26-28 in Royalton, Minnesota.
Lundgren was briefly married to Geoff‘s stepdaughter Miranda; they have since divorced.
Pictured below: Geoff Tate (photo by Stephanie Cabral)
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