For The Metal Voice former Anthrax singer Neil Turbin spoke Annihilator main man Jeff Waters at The NAMM Show 2024.
When asked about releasing new music “New music, yes, but not with Annihilator. I’ve been doing this Annihilator thing for 35 years now since I put my little first album out called ‘Alice In Hell’ and I’m just gonna do a show (Annihilator) for a festival in Europe this year. But I’ve been working on what all us guys seem to wanna do when they wanna step away from a band they’re in, is a solo project. So I got a solo thing I’m doing. I finished three records in the last three years. And that’s coming out. I live in England. I’ve had a studio with my wife there for about six years. And just before (the coronavirus pandemic) hit, we brought in SSL exchange consoles and upgraded things and made it into one badass mixing studio. And then the thing hit. So I was kind of stuck with this beautiful studio and instruments and all this fun stuff. And I thought, Screw it. Now’s the time to just get creative and do something outside of the heavy metal thing. So it’s more hard rock stuff. It’s everything from disco to THE KNACK to KISS to, like, early stuff, hard rock, heavy metal, ’70s, ’80s, a bit of VAN HALEN, of course. So it’s not groundbreaking, amazing new stuff that’s gonna come out for me. It’s more like a tribute in a way, in my own way.”
When asked who will be singing “I got real singers. Stu Block, who was in Iced Earth and Into Eternity and all that, a fellow Canadian and a great singer, I tapped him.”
When asked when the albums will be released “I think the first album starts coming out, I think, summer. I don’t know a lot of information because I decided to do something a little different. I tried to go with the first album to a few record companies, and it was, like, Oh, boy, this isn’t the old days. So instead of just trying to just let it go and let it get out there and know that nothing was really gonna happen, I tried a different idea, and I went to video game companies. And I thought, Hey, what if I did an album, or three, and gave you the album covers, gave you the booklets, gave you the trademark, the name of the band, the logo, and now you can have all three of them. It’s gone. I don’t get royalties, I don’t get anything if it does well, but I want one paycheck.’ And the second company I went to — without being a dick, we got more money from the video game company than I did in five or six Annihilator records. So somebody paid me to do a solo album more than my real band. They just paid the bills and it helped pay for that console I was telling you about.”
Jimmy Kay from Canada’s The Metal Voicespoke in depth with Annihilator mainman Jeff Waters about Neil Peart’s passing, Touring the USA, working with former Annihilator singer Coburn Pharr and their new album Sadistic Ballistic which will be released January 24 2020 on Silver Lining Music.
Watch the interview below.
When asked about the passing of Rush Drummer Neil Peart
“My top three Rush songs are Spirit of Radio, Limelight and Tom Sawyer. Rush to me is just part of Canada, they are almost not even people, it’s a religion, it’s a statue, it’s a feeling, it’s something you are proud of. Peart was and Rush is part of Canada, when Neil Peart died a little piece of Canada died.”
When asked about the lyrical themes off the new album Ballistic Sadistic
“Seven or Eight of the songs are kind about the same subject and they are just worded sometimes and little specific or more general. The album is not internationally out there trying to create awareness for this subject of the album. In 2001 I wrote a song about domestic violence and it was not about what people think about the stereotypical domestic violence, which is the guy hits or hurts the girl, it was in the reverse and that happens a lot more than people think. Since then I wrote 5 more songs about that subject, not condoning it just saying how wrong it is. So this album in general all spawns from a personal incident that happened to me recently and it wasn’t actually me involved in the domestic abuse it was someone else but it was very close to me and I became a third party in that mess . I had to get this record out personally because I had to get through it like a therapy by getting it all out in the music.The music is much angrier than anything the songs and the music were therapy as i am not an angry person.”
When asked about working with former Annihilator singer Coburn Pharr who sang on Never, Neverland
“Oh yeah, I talked to him last night, he was at my house in the summer, I talk to him all the time. I don’t do this reunion and anniversary crap but that is the one thing I would stop and go backwards for my favorite record, Never, Neverland. The record most people like over all the others and that was the reason I spoke to Coburn last year. I would never do a complete Never Neverland band reunion but I would like to work with Coburn again.”
Jimmy Kay from Canada’s The Metal Voice recently spoke with Jeff Waters guitarist/vocalist of legendary Canadian Thrash Metal band ANNIHILATOR.
Watch interview here:
When asked about the release date and the musical direction of their new album the follow-up to Suicide Society
“I am guessing late October 2017 is going to be the release date that is what we have been talking about with the label. I’ll have the album finished before the summer Canadian tour. I just finished my first song on vocals this afternoon should come out in October 2017, if everything works fine should go out on a huge tour of Europe afterwards. New record started out writing and recording it right after the 70,000 tons Metal Cruise that we did in February 2017 and it was off three days writing. For the vocals, initially the only plan I had was ok you got to stop doing singing the Hetfield, Mustiane, Ozzy singing style cause I had too much of that style of singing on the last record. It was too much of a fan boy. It was like 65% fan boy, 35% Waters, so now I sort of leveled it off to 75% me. I wanted to do this new record and try to put more importance on the vocals but not with layering with four voices and fixing the shitty notes. I meant more like one track get back to what I did on albums like ‘King of the Kill’ and ‘Refresh the Demon’, get back to more that style. I just wanted to be able to do that once and if things don’t work out, maybe I will consider someone else as a vocalist, that is always a possibility.”
“I am not going to worry about commercial catchy choruses on this album. Forget the formula’s I have been leaning towards the last ten albums or more, just wanted to write something messed up that doesn’t make sense to do. What ended up happening is, the music started sounding like the first two records (Alice in Hell, Never Neverland). I also brought in another producer, writer, co-writer of the music and I sat there with Rich Hinks (producer) from the UK, he is actually our bass player for the last year. There was something about him that I knew after I met him and spent a year on the road with him I realized this is the guy I want to come in and kick my butt, he knows the band and he knows music and studio as well me but he knows a different way. ”
When asked why it took so long to come back to Canada and do a full tour
“1989 was our first studio album and until 1993 we got to tour the States and Canada and after that then the scene pretty much tanked for most metal stuff 92-93 and I was lucky enough that Europe and Japan and eventually South America just got really big for Annihilator and that kept us going since then. When I tried to come back to Canada when promoters and clubs were starting up again and metal was getting some publicity in the early 2000’s. By the time I tried to get back in, the answers were pretty clear, it was like well you guys were never really big here and it’s not like a big reunion and you won’t let us screw you over with a terrible contracts so we would kind of like to put our money into some younger bands to have a new twist on things. So I was like oh well that sucks and I just stayed over seas and everywhere else and had a good time and things are going fantastic. Basically it came to the point where screw it I don’t need a tour agency or a record company here, I can just call all the club owners up and the in-house booking people and say who we are and we would like to do a tour and I was pretty surprised at how easy that was by passing the agencies and the people you are suppose to need to do a tour. I guess people figured out well at least Annihilator are good for one good Canadian tour cause people hadn’t seen us for so long they want they want to go check it out.”
When asked if he would consider finding a new singer for Annihilator for the future
“The only other singer I would hire would be if Stu Block defects from Iced Earth or if Rob Halford wanted to join but I don’t think any of those are going to happen.”
When asked about participating in a Big 4-6 Canadian Thrash festival and his thoughts on who would be included
“Weeks and weeks ago I actually tried to put together a Big 6 kind of vibe for Canada, Razor, Anvil, Exciter, Annihilator, Piledriver, Voivod and I talked to most of them and most of them were in and wanted to do it. Then Anvil had a tour at the time and another band same thing and I sort gave up on it for now but I think it would be fun to do like Canada’s Big 6 vibe because as small as a population we sure have an original style for bands that came out of here cause we are sandwiched between the UK and the USA, we get the best of both worlds.”
When asked about saying no to joining Megadeth, his relationship with Dave Mustaine and any future collaboration
The first contact I had with Dave Mustaine wasin 1989 where we were on tour with Testament in the States, Chuck Billy comes into my hotel room and says Jeff Mustaine’s on the phone. Dave was clearly by his own words was messed up back then. I was on booze at the time. Mustaine essentially said I got a couple of guitarist I want to talk to, I like your Alice in Hell Album ( I was blown away) I had to turn him down as I just signed with Roadrunner Records for a couple of albums and the album had just exploded, my manager said no you cant do it. So I had to tell Mustiane no. But then after a while years later 2004-2005, when Mustaine was doing a record with Chris Poland he called up and said do you want to come and do some solos, can you come down tomorrow and then he called back and said well no I worked it out with Chris. Shortly after that he got the Drover brother in, we were talking about writing together, it was all kind of back and forth he was going to play on Annihilators METAL album in 2007. But I see him over the years, we have diner and I am friends with David Elefson and I asked Dave to ask Mustiane if we could write just one song together, which would be really cool, I think that would be something fantastic.”
When asked about being nominated for a Canadian Juno Award (Like American Grammy)
It was fun and it was weird to be nominated because we never really been part of the industry here. Canada has a weird way of not generally not supporting artists that go outside of there own country to sign their deals. When you go outsider your country like we did sign to New York Roadrunner Records, its kind of like a black listing in a sense and the only way it works out for you in Canada if you become so big or commercial or radio friendly everywhere else they have to recognize you here they have no choice. So it was just easy for them to just leave us out of their history.”
Annihilator tour will see the band kick off their first date in Victoria, BC on June 13th and travel east wrapping up the tour in Cornwall. Annihilator tour to return to Canadian soil for over 20 years.The Canadian shows will also included the 2014 Canadian Wacken champions thrashers Mutank
On January 27, 2017, ANNIHILATOR released “Triple Threat”, a three-disc collection.
“Suicide Society” was released in September 2015 via UDR Music.
Tour dates:
June
13 – Victoria, BC – Distrikt Nightclub
16 – Calgary, AB – Dickens Pub
17 – Edmonton, AB – Starlite Room
18 – Saskatoon, SK – Saskatoon Event Center
19 – Regina, SK – The Exchange
20 – Winnipeg, MB – Park Theater
23 – Waterloo, ON – Maxwells
24 – Toronto, ON – The Opera House
26 – Ottawa, ON – The Brass Monkey
28 – Quebec City, QC – L’Anti
29 – Montreal, QC – Café Campus
30 – Cornwall, ON – The House
Hosted by Jeff Waters of Annihilator, the official 70000 Tons Of Metal All Star Jam took place on board The World’s Biggest Heavy Metal Cruise last weekend, reports Bravewords.com.
Featuring members of Hammerfall, Delain, Turisas, Firewind, Gamma Ray, Lacuna Coil, Children Of Bodom, Moonspell, Jag Panzer, Krisiun, Vader, Raven, Dragonforce, Vader, Visions Of Atlantis, and more, a series of videos from the All Star Jam can be seen below:
70000 TONS OF METAL is proud to announce that ANNIHILATOR mastermind Jeff Waters has invited ex-vocalist Coburn Pharr to feature in their performances when The World’s Biggest Heavy Metal Cruise sails to Jamaica in January 2015. Pharr was lead vocalist on ANNIHILATOR‘s critically acclaimed and best-selling 1990 release “Never,
Neverland” which includes classics such as “Road To Ruin”, “I Am In Command”, “Reduced To Ash” and “Phantasmagoria”.
Waters comments: “Seeing as how it is the 25th Anniversary of my favorite ANNIHILATOR album, I thought it would be a lot of fun to invite Coburn with us to perform some of the songs he was a part of. I haven’t seen him since 1992 so I think the fans are going to spot us having lots of conversations about the old days (and my 80’s hair style)! Current ANNIHILATOR vocalist Dave Padden is very much looking forward to this as he is a huge fan of that album and Coburn, but also because he won’t have to play and sing those songs hahaha...!”
Jeff Waters will also be hosting JAMMING WITH WATERS IN INTERNATIONAL WATERS All-Star Jam which will feature members from the 60 bands on board 70000TONS OF METAL 2015, which includes ARCH ENEMY, APOCALYPTICA, BEHEMOTH, BLIND GUARDIAN, CANNIBAL CORPSE, DESTRUCTION, MICHAEL SCHENKER’S TEMPLE OF ROCK, NAPALM DEATH, THERION, VENOM and many more!
70000TONS OF METAL, The Original, The World’s Biggest Heavy Metal Cruise, will sail Thursday, January 22, 2015 on board the Royal Caribbean “Liberty Of The Seas” from Port Everglades in Fort Lauderdale, FL to Ocho Rios, Jamaica and will not return to the real world until Monday, January 26, 2015.
Ticket prices start at USD 666 Per Person (plus Taxes & Fees), which includes all on-board entertainment, non-alcoholic and non-carbonated beverages, most on-board restaurants and even 24 room service!
Canadian metallers ANNIHILATOR have posted via their official Facebook page, that guitarist Jeff Watershas some studio openings for bands that need a killer MASTERING and/or mixing job.
“Serious inquiries only please; the dude is a busy guy!”
watersound@sympatico.ca
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